Saints Nation: Was Johnny Patrick Waived for Blabbing to Larry Holder?

Written by Andrew Juge on .

Famous late New Orleans radio talk show personality Buddy Diliberto used to always say something to my buddy Ralph Malbrough that always resonated with me: "never listen to what they say, watch what they do" in reference to the Saints' front office. Watching their moves, the theory goes, would tell you everything you ever need to know about their thought process, while the words they share with the media only serve to further their agenda and paint public perception. So I watched them waive Johnny Patrick and upon further reflection it told me something.

When the Saints released their 3rd round draft pick in 2010 Johnny Patrick, at first I wasn't that surprised. He had a miserable first two seasons with the team and just never seemed to live up to the high draft pick the Saints invested in him. Still, cutting a third round pick before year three is bad. All the more head scratching when you consider that he cost very little against the cap so the Saints didn't really get much needed relief by parting ways with him. So why now? I am sickened to admit that I agree with Jeff Duncan of the Times Picayune on this one when I say that the timing of this release is really suspicious. And why did Jeff dig no deeper than that statement? Was he protecting a colleague? Why can Patrick now when they could at least give him a shot to compete one last time in training camp before letting him go? He might suck, but he doesn't suck worse than a camp body like Cord Parks that will probably be one of the first players cut next season.

Then it all hit me. I remembered that Larry Holder dropped this bombshell, citing an anonymous defensive player on the team, suggesting that Steve Spagnuolo should be fired. Granted he was fired, so obviously the player's comments were accurate and many people on the Saints (players and coaches alike) agreed with the sentiment communicated here. Still, the players were vocal on twitter about not appreciating a player not keeping his thoughts "in house". In fact, Vilma went out to call the guy who did this a coward on twitter for not attaching his name to it. Vilma was asked point blank if he agreed with the comments and he said that wasn't the point. By saying nothing, Vilma of course pretty much metaphorically shouted from the rooftops that he wanted Spagnuolo fired as well. That said, he was also very vocal in saying that he didn't agree with whatever the "anonymous" player (that Larry Holder continues to protect by virtue of his moral duty as a journalist) did. Other players on the defense echoed similar feelings.

Fast forward to Sean Payton being reintstated, and his paranoia/disdain for revealing ANYTHING to the local media, and you knew he was never going to stand for this kind of thing. Whoever the player was, he was going to find out, and there was going to be hell to pay. So who has been cut since then? David Thomas and Johnny Patrick, and that's it (Thomas didn't play defense). And of all the players on defense that carry high cap figures when the Saints are so desperate to fix their financial problems, they cut the most inexpensive one. Suspect. There is no way I am buying that waiving Johnny Patrick is the first gut move in reaction to being the worst defense in NFL history unless there's more to the story. And yeah, Patrick was horrible, but no worse than every other single player on this defense not named Jordan, Lofton or Abdul-Quddus. And think about the message it sends to the team, something that you KNOW Payton found necessary upon coming back to kick his defensive unit in the pants. It sends the message that they are a tight knit group and they keep things in house. If a player upsets that balance, regardless of his high draft status, he's gone. That's enough to shake the foundation of every player and help them remember that in the NFL, no one is safe.

I asked Larry Holder on twitter about this theory and he never responded. This is speculation, of course, and I want to be clear about that. But as far as I'm concerned, his lack of a response told me exactly what I needed to know.

And frankly, if Johnny Patrick is the blabber, then I'm glad this happened. There's no room on the team for a guy that would rather spill his guts to Larry Holder with a pinky promise not to tell than share his feelings with the coaching staff and keep it private. What he did caused the friction that was happening in the locker room to be viewed by the outside public, and that's never ok. Bottom line, and most importantly, that's just not what the Saints are about.

What do you think? Is there any way Johnny Patrick isn't the blabber?

 

35 comments
ken72864
ken72864

Maybe they figure Cord Parks could get a couple of years to prove himself. Obviously Patrick only proved that he was a draft bust so why keep him.  These idiot writers will come up with anything to write a story.

SaintsNation
SaintsNation moderator

 @ken72864 are you referring to me as an idiot writer? No one is holding a gun to your head and making you read this blog.

MarijnPessers
MarijnPessers

Could be Patrick was not the blabber but I think there is more to it then a cap issue. Payton either really disliked some things he did in the season or there are som lockerroom troubles. You would not know because that stuff (normally) does not go to the media. But this is one valid reason.

DansHat
DansHat

I think Juge COULD be right, but I think there's no way to tell for sure. And who knows what Kermit was doing in the locker room on the day in question. And what the hell's his cap number?

SaintsNation
SaintsNation moderator

 @DansHat More importantly, does Kermit play safety????

DansHat
DansHat like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @SaintsNation Dude, don't you watch Treme? Kermit (Ruffins) plays the trumpet!! #rimshot #dontforgetottipyourbloggers

DansHat
DansHat like.author.displayName 1 Like

So who's playing the role of Sean Pamphilon here, folks?  hahahahahahahaha

#youcanttelltheplayerswithoutascorecard  #illbehereallweek

cajuncommando58
cajuncommando58 like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @DansHat Look it's Clayton favorite Blogger!!

DansHat
DansHat like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @cajuncommando58 yeah, you right! And you got 19 points, Clayton - I'm passing you next!!! How are points actually accrued here? If it was points per comment and at CSC I'd have blown out the "counter" already...

DansHat
DansHat

@cajuncommando58 thanks, my friend!

SaintsNation
SaintsNation moderator

 @DansHat that's a name I haven't heard in a while. I guess he crawled back under his obscurity rock

LarryHolder
LarryHolder

@SaintsNationBlg How would I know the answer to that question?

SaintsNationBlg
SaintsNationBlg

@LarryHolder you could tell me Johnny Patrick wasn't your source.

LarryHolder
LarryHolder

@SaintsNationBlg I'm not saying anything about my source. That's the whole point of protecting your source.

troyheb77
troyheb77

@LarryHolder what do you expect to happen with Chris Ivory, and if he leaves will there be any compensation?

LarryHolder
LarryHolder

@SaintsNationBlg @hakimdropsball And that's why I engaged in conversation. All good.

SaintsNationBlg
SaintsNationBlg

@hakimdropsball @LarryHolder for the record I was never attacking Larry. Have lots of respect for him. Just calling it like I see it.

hakimdropsball
hakimdropsball

NOW HUG IT OUT!!! “@SaintsNationBlg: @LarryHolder fair enough”

LarryHolder
LarryHolder

@SaintsNationBlg You can ask me about every player on the roster and I wouldn't say yes or no.

LarryHolder
LarryHolder

@SaintsNationBlg You can think and write whatever you want.

SaintsNationBlg
SaintsNationBlg

@LarryHolder he could have lost his job over it. I'm just speculating. If he wasn't your source I would think you could say that, though

SaintsNationBlg
SaintsNationBlg

@LarryHolder I'm not expecting you to tell me who your source is. I'm just saying I am very confident I know who it is, and there's evidence

SaintsNationBlg
SaintsNationBlg

@LarryHolder so if I ask you if your source is Kermit the frog you wouldn't admit it's not him? Or just all Saints players off limits?

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